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Thriving in uncertain times: Ann Ramakumaran

Every founder’s journey features some measure of adversity. To better understand how leaders manage through market challenges and respond to trends, we’re speaking with business owners guiding their companies and industries to new heights. Topics include business resiliency and scaling for growth, access to capital, financial discipline and strategic planning, talent management, and leadership.

 

This is the fourth conversation in our ongoing “Thriving in uncertain times” series, in which diverse, women, veteran and LGBTQ+ business leaders share how they’re building resilient organizations. In this discussion, Frederick Royall III, National Head of Diverse Businesses for JPMorgan Chase Commercial Banking, spoke with Ann Ramakumaran, founder and CEO of Ampcus, a technology and business consulting and staff augmentation firm—and JPMorgan Chase supplier—celebrating its 20th anniversary in 2024.

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Talent management - How to recruit and retain staff while continuously innovating.
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Frederick Royall the Third, National Head of Diverse Businesses, JPMorgan Chase Commercial Banking.

Frederick Royal III:

Many diverse business owners have told us about their challenges accessing capital. Ann, how would you characterize your capital raising experience?

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Ann Ramakumaran, Founder and CEO, Ampcus.

Ann Ramakumaran:

We're still a 100% privately held company. We don't have any outside investors yet. But from a bank perspective, our relationships with the banks have been great. Getting line of credits has never been an issue because they've really seen the way we manage our finances.

Frederick Royal III:

So let's go back to where you first started the business. How did you go about funding it at that point?

Ann Ramakumaran:

Yeah, so when I started off the business, put all my savings out there, all that I'd earned from my previous jobs, requested my husband to lend me about $10,000. But Fred, I repaid that the very first year. We were blessed because we had the support of our clients who really made adjustments to the payment terms within the contract. We were also blessed because we were surrounded by some amazing employees and contractors who agreed to our payment terms. But till date, knock on wood, we're a financially stable, profitable company. That's basically because there is that financial discipline, we manage our APs and ARs really well and when we take loans from the bank for any of our acquisitions, we have a very, very good aggressive payout plan. And that's a reason why banks love us and want to do more work with us.

Frederick Royal III:

What advice proved most helpful to you each time you approach lenders for financial support?

Ann Ramakumaran:

It is so important to not wait until the last minute, right? We put our short-term goals in place, we put our long-term goals in place, we share our vision with the banks. We keep them posted on where we are heading off to as a company.

Frederick Royal III:

Now turning to other diverse businesses, what advice would you have for them as they're thinking about pursuing capital to scale their operations?

Ann Ramakumaran:

If the goal of that business owner is to build an enterprise, then they need to focus on scalability and innovation. You have to ensure that they’re financially stable in a way that they also continue to be a profitable company. So it is very important to have that financial discipline. So since 2004, every single year, our financials are audited by external auditors. We invest in that. So it's very important to keep your books clean. It's very important to ensure that you run a financially stable entity because scalability and innovation comes at a cost. And most importantly, continue to build relationships with your banks. That's very, very important. Continue to invest back in the business because not all days are going to be glory days, but you’ve got to ensure that there's money in the bank to run payroll even during an economic downturn or government shutdown or a pandemic for that matter.

Frederick Royal III:

This is such an important topic for our founders and business leaders. Thank you, Ann, for sharing your journey with us.

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For more founder insights, check out Royall’s “Thriving” conversations with:

  • Travis Mack, a Navy veteran, serial entrepreneur and philanthropist
  • Janice Bryant Howroyd, the first Black woman to build a billion-dollar business
  • Martha de la Torre, CEO and co-founder of the largest Spanish-language classifieds service in the U.S.

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    Meet Ann Ramakumaran

    The supplier diversity advocate is celebrating 20 years of her technology and business consulting and staff augmentation firm in 2024.

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    How to stay nimble and innovate through uncertainty

    Ann Ramakumaran explains her approach to business resiliency and scaling over 20 years of growth.

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    One founder’s capital journey

    Ann Ramakumaran reflects on the importance of financial discipline and transparency when engaging with financial partners.

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    Founder Ann Ramakumaran talks financial discipline and strategic planning

    Managing risk and planning for the future has kept Ampcus thriving for 20 years.

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    How to recruit and retain staff while continuously innovating

    Ann Ramakumaran shares the talent-management best practices she’s cultivated while leading Ampcus, the “supplier of choice” for many of her clients.

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    Ann Ramakumaran’s leadership style

    The Ampcus founder reflects on her role models and navigating “make or break” moments in her company’s 20-year history.

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